At the last convention I was at (2005 I think) in the final talk, given by a "bethel heavy" he specifically mentioned there being a shortage of qualified men. They gave numbers of how many MS's and Elders - like a quota that needed to be filled. They probably tried to spin it that there were so many new people coming into the org, too new to take the lead. But we know that the old guys are dying off and the young guys are leaving or just not interested in extra responsibility without pay. I think they just aren't enough elders to conduct and MS's to fill 4-6 bookstudies, plus WT conductor, PO, secretary, school conductor and service overseer.
Amber Rose
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Meeting schedule rearranged...WHY?
by sir82 inofficial speculation thread.... even if a reason is given for the meeting rearrangement when it is announced on 4/27, we all know how the society spins things (e.g., awake magazine being reduced to one issue per month to "put more emphasis on the bible" real reason.. .
so why is the society doing this?
on the surface, it seems to be a loosening of control.
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No special campaign to invite the public to the DC this year...
by sir82 in...per the may 2008 km.. it does give a hint about the "future campaign" that i noted earlier in this thread though: .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/154825/1.ashx.
i guess they finally figured out that people are not likely to drive 50-300 miles to a fringe group's religious convention after receiving a smarmy invitation from a stranger at their door..
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Amber Rose
I don't want to acutally say that it "makes sence" for them to do anything that they do but...After 3 or 4 years of doing the same campaign, the same time of year, with no results - it gets more tiresome and dreaded each time it comes around again. Their strategy seemed to be trying to make FS seem new and exciting not bland and predictable. They gotta give them something new and fresh from time to time orl, at least change the packaging.
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Going to the Prom not allowed as a JW
by odie67 ini didnt go to my prom because it was not allowed.
i didnt even bother to ask.
i don't regret it alot, but it would be nice to have a picture or two for memory sake.
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Amber Rose
Yep, no proms allowed. I don't know, I guess they made too many horny teenager movies about "losing it" on prom night and the borg thought they were documentaries. Kids around here started trying to make up for missing thier proms by organizing formal dances. After a few years they had to put and end to that too. (Kids are having fun!? Nooooooo!!!) The counsel was that we should not be immitating worldly customs, anything that resembeles something worldly should not be desired.
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How do you fell when you look back at your time as a JW ??
by karter into me not all bad taught me some good life skills howerever 38 years i could have done alot with that time...............karter
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Amber Rose
Embarassed.
I look back on the years spent being a JW and mostly feel regret for things that I didn't do or how I could have treated people better, I wasn't allowed to be friends with them, so why try. I try to look for the good that maybe came from being part of the religion but, like OTWO, I really can't give them credit for anything good that I have become or good that I have done. Had I not grown up as a JW would my life be better or worse? I cannot guess. That is where I met my husband and we both are out now and I couldn't be happier (unless my mom and sister were out too - that might be asking too much.)
From my JW training I learned how to cheat at arguing and how to be really confusing - really not a good thing but it can be FUN!
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What is your experience with a Philosophy class?
by Blueblades instudents wandering into a philosophy class are usually hoping to gain some perspectives on, say, the meaning of it all, but then some rumpled guy in mismatched tweeds ambles up to the podium and starts lecturing on the meaning of "meaning.".
first things first, he says.
before we answer any questions, big or small, we need to understand what the question itself signifies.
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Amber Rose
I'm taking a Philosophy class right now, Intro to Ethics. I like it pretty well but, I wouldn't say its anything earth-shaking. We have read peices from Plato, Aristotle, Hobbes, Hume and Kant. I'm actually supposed to be writing a paper right now................
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MrsJones' Mother wants to have her cake...
by mrsjones5 inand eat it too.. ok today i'm getting ready to take my husband to an appointment and i check my iphone, which had been charging, low and behold i have a call from my mother.
i call her back and she says what she wasn't calling for any particular reason but then goes on the mention that my sister had called earlier and wished her a happy birthday and even though she doesn't celebrate birthdays she was quite pleased that my sister did call and acknowledged her birthday.
i told my dear mother that it had crossed my mind to call her to day because of her birthday but since she doesn't celebrate it i thought it would be more prudent not to call today but to wait til tomorrow as that i would not offend.
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Amber Rose
Next year throw her a surprise b-day party.
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How many have had a problem with the confession idea to elders?
by Hope4Others ini use to, well i still do think its no better than the confession idea to a priest.. 1. how many elders step down and are removed and what then?.
2. how many people have access to the file cabinet?.
3. my biggest thought is how many that are no longer elders repeat the dirty little secrets?.
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Amber Rose
I used to wonder how bad did you have to be to need to have to go the elders about it. In other words, at what point do you need to assemble a team to ask for god to forgive you?
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Will Remarrying Lead to DFing?
by compound complex inthe wtb&ts states in this or that circumstance* the offended jw may separate or divorce but never remarry.
neither can the discarded mate remarry.. what could the local congregation do if they learned that either one of the above (faded, ex, whatever) remarries?.
*one's physical or spiritual life (usually that of the wife) is endangered; one (always the husband) refuses to provide for one's family, .... thanks,.
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Amber Rose
Here's something that I've wondered about: Tim and Tammy are married. Bob and Becky are married. Tim and Becky cheat on their spouses then marry each other, DF and eventually they are both reinstated. Neither Tammy or Bob ever remarry or date anyone else. What is the status of the two who cheated? Are they still considered adulterers?
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What do you think of todays youth?
by dawg inas many of you know, i live in a college town and therefore i'm around people much younger than me almost all day.
here's one thing i've noticed, the youth today have left the god of the bible behind.
they have been brought up in a world where information is available at a very rapid rate and have already figured out the biblical god is a fairy tale.
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Amber Rose
Sorry, Dawg, it sounds like a bunch of Old Man talk to me.
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JW weddings gone bad. A story from my old congo.
by uwishufish inmiddle tenn late 70s.
first there was the child the high school girl had out of wedlock.
the term rape was bandied about after she began to show.
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Amber Rose
Here's the story of a poor young man who's congregation I used to go to. At 16-17 he and a girl in the cong. like eachother. They say will get married as soon as he graduates high school. This is a huge deal for the congregation. They are too young to be dating, marriage is serious, not for children, blah, blah, blah, blow the whole thing out of proportion. The girl can't take the pressure, breaks up with the boy and marries the very next guy that she sees. (Another happy marriage).
The boy has a series of short term relationships. (possibly due to the fact that he shows no signs of moving out of his parents basement or getting a real job) Then against the odds a girl agrees to be engaged to him. She has very expensive tastes and eventually realizes that he cannot provide her with the things that she desires. Calls off the wedding.
Then he reconnects with a long lost love from his wee childhood. She moves the whole way across the country to be with him. He get's DF'd, marries the girl and tries getting reinstated. Then he starts showing up at the meetings without his new wife. She moved back across the country to be with her first husband that she NEVER DIVORCED! Elders feel bad for the boy and quickly reinstate.
After all this he gets engaged again and actually gets married for real! Last I heard, they recently bought a house - but still live in his parent's basement because they can't afford to make it liveable. He still doesn't have a real job.